Primus FAQ
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General information
Personal information
Music and miscellaneous
General information
See the Primus band page.
See the annotated
discography.
See the reviews from the live shows page to get
other people's opinions. Here's the original response:
Well, answers seem to vary. So this is just sort of a highlight
film of some comments from record reviews, personal feelings, and
comments from friends some who who like Primus and some who hate
them. Once again, feel free to contribute any personal favorites.
"thrash-funk" --lots of lame reviews
"They're unique, they're a square peg in a round hole. They're
totally new. Maybe that's what people were saying about us when we
came out" --Kirk Hammet, Guitar Player sep 91
"The only thing I can think to compare you to is a heavy King
Crimson." --Rikki Rachtman
"Oh yeah, we're a blatant rip-off of King Crimson"
--Les Claypool in response to above question
The consensus on this seems to include at least the following:
- Rush
- King Crimson
- The Residents
- Frank Zappa
Those are the big four it seems. Others include:
- Peter Gabriel
- Grateful Dead
- The Police
- Fred Frith
- Yes
- Mark Ribot
- Metallica
- Pink Floyd
- Fishing
- Acting (Herb has appeared in at least one indie film Chalk)
Personal information
- Les and Ler both are from El Sobrante, CA.
- Herb has lived in Michigan and Arizona.
- Brain is from Cupertino, CA.
Les was born in Richmond, CA and was 30 years old as of 10/93.
Supposedly, his birthday is 9/29/63. Ler was born on 9/12/68, and Herb
was born on 4/10/65.
It is a picture of Skeeter, and the caption says "Skeeters suck
too". He also has a tattoo on his right shoulder (right below the
Skeeter one on his head) of the Cat in the Hat with a plate of Green
Eggs and Ham.
According to an article in Bass Player Magazine Les lost half of
his hearing in his right ear in a diving accident. Les say's "It
sucks- when I go to listen to studio playback through headphones I
think, what's the point?"
Herb's nickname is for many reasons. First, there was at least one
other Tim in Primate/Primus, Tim Wright. Also Herb has a fondness for
herbal remedies, and is quite a health nut, at least according to Les.
See the lyrics page.
What are the latest tour/concert dates?
See the listing of all live shows.
Who is "Michael Malloy"
See the write-up from the Useless
Information page. A more condensed version
is also available.
Do Primus have any formal music training?
Les was a member of his high school Jazz band where he received at
least some formal training(reading sheet music). Ler was at one point
a student of Joe Satriani, about as close to apprenticing to a master
as you get in rock guitar.
What awards have they won?
- 1992 Guitar Player Readers Poll
- Les 3rd place in the Rock Bass
- 1993 Guitar Player Readers Poll
- Les 2nd place Rock Bass
- Les 2nd place Funk Bass
- Seas Of Cheese- 3rd place Best Alternative Album
- 1994 Guitar Player Readers Poll
- Les- Best Rock Bass
- Les- 2nd place Funk Bass
- Ler- Best Alternative guitarist(tie with Jerry Cantrell)
- Pork Soda- Best Alternative Album
- 1995 Guitar Player Readers Poll
- Les- Best Rock Bass
- Les- 3rd place Funk Bass
- 1993 Bass Player readers poll
- Les- Bass Player of the Year
- 1994 Bass Player readers poll
- 1995 Bass Player Readers Poll
- Les - Best Unclassifiable
- 1992 Modern Drummer Readers Poll
- Herb - 2nd Place "Up and Comer"
- Bammie Awards (Bass Player of the Year at least three times; a
couple of Bammies for the band).
How did "Primus sucks" originate?
Before Ler and Herb joined, fans of Primate/Primus would
follow around Les and the guys saying, "you guys are great".
Les would reply, "Nah, we suck". It caught on and the fans
started yelling "You Suck" at shows. Les would reply, "Why
Thank You". It caught on and the rest is history.
*When did Primate become Primus?
- As far I know the last release as Primate was in 1984. Germ's
Choice featured a single by Primus in 1988. So sometime in
between 1984-1988, the tape _Sausage_ was released by the band
called Primus.
-Brady E. Gaughan
From: Michael Muc
I interviewed Herb today (I write for an Australian mag called Beat Magazine)
and he says that the name changed from Primate because there was another band
already called "The Primates". To avoid legal retribution, Les pulled out a
dictionary and found a close alternate.
How many drummers/guitarists has Primate/Primus had?
See the family tree.
What's a tweeker?
Someone strung out on methyl amphetamines, or crank.
What does "Too Many Puppies" say if you play it backwards?
rom:[email protected] (Paul Johnston)
| Okay, okay, okay...this here is what we call a live simulcast post. I'm
| transcribing everything I can get out of the "Too Many Puppies" song I've
| taped, unscrewed, rewound, and fixed so that it's backwards.
|
| Sure is harder to hear Les this way...
|
| first that whisper...sounds like whoever it is says "Yeah, right!"
|
| After a while it sounds like Les sez: "these here hamsters, they is so alike"
|
| then there's a part where it sounds like just feedback (remember this is
| backwards) and it sounds like Les is talking on the phone. The vocals
| are pretty buried, but it does sound like he is saying something real.
| If you play Puppies the right way, it sounds weirder (could this be
| something Les actually planned on purpose?)
|
| Then it sounds a little like Les is yelling "please don't push us down!"
|
| Soon after it sounds like "yeah, they're just sheep"
|
| The intro (to the actual song, which is the ending to this) sounds
| *exactly* like the beginning of Hendrix's "Are You Experienced?"
|
| and that's it.
What does Les say at the end of "Too Many Puppies"?
: In article [email protected], [email protected] (Dave Miller) writes:
:
: >
: >It says 'el sobrente(sp?) number one'.
: >My motorhead friend tells me its some kind of racing term.
: >
: >-Dave
: Well, El Sobrante, CA is where Les and Ler are from. In "Jerry",
: he says
: "El Solo Number One", which might be a racing reference.
: Many times in concert, Les will bastardize that line in Jerry as
:"El *Sobrante*
: Number One".
From:[email protected]
I think he does say "El Sob". It sounds like "El Sob",
and "El Sob" makes sense. Admittedly, the handwriting in the CD
insert can be read as "El Solo", but I think the 'lo' is really a 'b'.
From: [email protected]
Too Many Puppies--When you play it straight and get to the part
where everything gets all quiet and you hear the"ding-dinging"
and the "da-da-da-da-da" of the bass drum, Les says something
that's really quiet, but I figured out he says: "Save it for
the road", then something like "sol ba tu ga la gutter, call co la
road butter" which sounds totally insane, but that's Les for
you. I'm not totally sure I got it right though. Then, Les blows on
the mike, or that's what it sounds like. At the end, he does say "El
Sobrante Number One" for sure.
What does Les add to "Nature Boy"?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
ter.edu (Jeffrey Swing) writes:
| > ..... But can
| > anybody figure out what Les says during the "extra" verse that they add to
| > Nature Boy? Something like: "Skinny was born in a bathtub, and he grew so
| > incledibly thin....", and some thing with a "Hello Dolly record". Anybody
| > have the lyrics?
| >
| >
From: [email protected] (Sean D. Reilly)
-Jef
|
| That sounds like part of a song by the residents called "hello skinny".
| Here are the lyrics for the Residents version, I can't imagine any other
| song having such similar lyrics.
|
|
| Skinny was born in a bathtub,
| and he grew so increidibly thin,
| that even the end of an eyedropper,
| Sucked him in.
|
| SKinny never knew any questions,
| And skinny never looked at lights,
| But skinny sold something,
| Every single night.
|
| Skinny sold a soldier to me,
| Skinny sold a wife,
| Skinny sold a suction cup
| And a knofe.
| Skinny found a "Hello Dolly"
| Record in the hall.
| He sold it to a truck driver
| In the fall.
What is the origin of "Tommy the Cat"
Didja know that there was a nursery rhyme called Thomas
O'Malley Cat? I found it in my cheesy record collection one
day. The guy sings all about Thomas's adventures in
O'Malley's alley. Cool, huh.
What Exactly does Les sing in Toys Go WInding Down?
Sender: [email protected]
Actually, I think he says: Skiddley dit dad dow de dee. No,
that's not a stupid post, but you know Les......Check it out and
listen to it again. I saw them live, and could have sworn that this is
what he says....
From: [email protected]
Toys Go Winding Down--I'm quite sure that he says either Skiddily dit dow
di dee or Skilly dit dow di day.
How was the Claypool style of playing born?
From: [email protected] (Alex Chaulk)
You may
already know all of this but it's worth repeating in case you don't.
Les went to school near S.F. with the guitarist for Metallica (not
Hetfield, the other guy with dark hair) and learned to play upright
bass because his school concert band needed an upright player. Well,
needless to say he sucked, but the teacher was patient with him and he
learned all his scales, etc. That's why you'll hear some upright bass
work on his albums. I know Les was heavy into Rush and Geddy Lee and
Yes' Chris Squire, etc. and used to play "Roundabout" on new basses
to see how they played. He conned his mother into getting him the
sweet bass he has now (the Carl Thompson 4-string he has with the
whammy bar). He then started to listen to some of the funk bass
players (slappers and pluckers). I think he then got into a
experimental-music band (played some far out stuff) where he honed his
playing. And thus, the Les Claypool style of playing was born!
Primate was then formed, then the name-change to Primus.
Did Les Claypool audition for Metallica?
After the death of original bassist Cliff Burton, Metallica auditioned many a bassist
including none other than Les Claypool himself. I imagine the main reason he was considered
( aside from his rather obvious bass skills)was the fact that he had played in local prog-metal band
Blind Ilussion. It appears he did indeed request to jam on a few Isley Brothers tunes. Obviously,
he and Metallica parted ways shortly thereafter. It would of been intersting to say the least.
According to rumor this is the reason Primus often include a bit of "Master of Puppets" in their
set.
What kind of articles/information is available?
What kind of articles/information is available on the net?
Homepages
As far as I can tell, none of these pages still exist. But here there are anyway.
Newsgroups
Related pages
Articles and Reviews
What is Prawnsong?
Prawnsong is a label started by Les to distribute Primus side projects and projects of Friends. This label
has signed a distrubition deal
with Mammoth.
Who is on Prawnsong?
- Sausage
- Charlie Hunter Trio
- Eskimo
- M.I.R.V.
- Laundry
- Porch
- Alphabet Soup
- Daddy Goddus
- Baby Snufkin
Do Primus endorse any products?
Les has apperead in adds for Carl Thompson basses, Carl Thompson strings, and ADA Preamps.
LEr as far as I know, has yet to be tapped for his commercial appeal. Herb endorses Pork Pie Percussion
in the credits of Primus albums. He also endorses Vic Firth sticks.Herb has also appeared in
ads for Starclassic Drums( a division of Tama). Ler has apperared in and ad for Paul
Reed Smith guitars. The ad appeared in the january 96 issue of Guitar Player magazine
and includes a picture taken at the pool at Rancho Relaxo.(Les's house)
What bands were Les/Ler/Herb in before Primus?
See the discography. The highpoints are as follows:
Les:
- The Tommy Crank Band (at least I think that is correct, some Bay-area R&B band)
- Blind Illusion, a Bay-Area Prog-Metal band. Supposedly there is a record from this band on Metal Blade records.
Ler:- Possesed, early death metal band.
- Blind Illusion, see above.
Brain:
What other projects have they played on?
What songs do Primus cover/mutate ?
- Master Of Puppets (Metallica)
- Thieves (Ministry)
- Smoke On the Water (Deep Purple)
- Thela Hun Jineet (King Crimson)
- YYZ (Rush)
- Cyngus X-1 (Rush)
- Intruder ( Gabriel)
- Making Plans For Nigel ( XTC)
- Sinister Exaggerator ( The Residents)
- Tippi Toes ( The Meters)
- Have A Cigar ( Pink Floyd)
- In the Flesh
- Star Spangled Banner
- Kashmir (Led Zeppelin)
- Hello Skinny/Constantinople medley (The Residents)
- She Watches Channel Zero (Public Enemy)
In addition to these, Primus also cover a number of songs as Bock Cock And the Yellow Sock.
As quoted from Ram's cd reviews:
Primus --- Freak Out
This is clearly a bootleg, but quite a good one. The recording is okay, but it is the content that appeals to me; it
is Primus at its mellow best. The first 5 songs are Jerry was a Racecar Driver, John the Fisherman, Groundhog's
Day, Nature Boy, and guess what, a medley comprising of Staying Alive (which I couldn't identify) by the Gibb
brothers, Don't you Want Me (credited to Callis-Oakley-Wright), Afternoon Delight by Johnny Carved, Rock
'n' Roll all Night by Kiss, and Biko by Gabriel. You think that's cool? There's more---the songs are all
performed by Bob Cock and his Yellow Socks. (But who is Bob Cock? Is he Claypool with a different voice?).
Recorded in LA, December '93.
Is there any Primus guitar/bass tab available?
What kind of equipment do they use?
There is also a list of equipment on Rams page.
Les' gear
- Basses
- Carl Thompson Rainbow Bass(six string fretless (36' scale))
- Carl Thompson four string (Kahler tremolo)
- Carl Thompson four string (maple body, backup for above)
- Carl Thompson six string fretted (Hamburger Train)
- Zeta Eletric upright
- Kay upright
- Fender Jazz Bass
- Tune fretless six-string( pre-CT six, seen in Bill And Ted's Bogus Journey)
- Live amp rig( from Bass Player Jan 93)
- ADA MB-1 bass preamp
- ADA MP-1 guitar preamp (modified by ADA's Todd Langer)
- Mesa/Boogie Bass 400 Plus power amp
- (2) Mesa/Boogie 2x15 cabinets
- Digital Music Midi Ground Control footpedal
- Studio Rig(Pork Soda)
- ADA MB-1 bass preamp
- Meyers EQ
- Alesis Micro Limiter
- ADA Stereo Tapped Delay
- Systech Harmonic Energizer
Ler's gear
- Guitars
- Paul Reed Smith Custom (with neck position single coil)
- 79' Fender Statocaster (Floyd Rose, bridge position Seymour Duncan Super Distortion pickup)
- Gibson ES-125
- Gibson ES-150 (this and above are for "total feedback")
- Studio rig( Pork Soda)
- (2) Marshal JCM-900 heads
- (2) Boss Digital Delays
- Electro-Harmonix Big Muff
- ADA MP-1
- Yamaha SPX-900
- SWR bass head(400 watts)
- Mesa/Boogie 2x15 cabinet
- Octave Multiplexer
- ADA Stereo Tapped Delay
- Dunlop Cry-Baby wah
- lots of other stuff
Herbs gear
Where is the sample in _____ from?
On sailing the seas.. that song Los Bastardos where there is a sample of
"you bastard" over and over and at the end "you just called me a bastard
didnt you?" well, that voice is from an episode of The Young Ones, a British
comedy show. The dude with the red tie and buttons says "you bastard" to
the 'American' type guy. And later he said the second sample to the hippie
guy.. i dont know the name of the episode but if anyone NEEDS to know it was
aired late night march 18 , 1995 on Comedy Central.
a mild corrections from: Mark Burrell ([email protected])
- it is from 'the young ones', but its not Rik Mayall (playing 'Rick' -
often called 'Prick' during the show) but the punk Vivian (played by Ade
Edmondson) - in one episode he had a heavy night and woke up on Sunday
morning to the sound of loud church bells - he opened the curtains and
uttered the immortal 'shut up you bastards!'. however, it is Rik Mayall who
says near the end of the track 'did you just call me a bastard?' In my
teens, it was de-rigeur to watch 'The Young Ones' each week, they often
had a good band on, like Motorhead, or Madness, etc....
What is Wounded Knee about?
Herb says "I needed a name. I was reading this book called "Bury my Heart
At Wounded Knee. It was something I never really thought about before... I
mean how this country came to be. We are taught to be sop proud. But a lot of
what we have is based on lies and deciet. They only teach you what they want
you to know. I hope people will see the title and check it out. Next time you
listen to `Wounded Knee', try and put the story and the music together. The
rhythm and the pulse, there is an element of it that is angry then peaceful."
In 1890, at Wounded Knee Creek, the United States Calavary murdered over
200 Sioux Indian men,women , and children.
-Indie File July 1993 Pat Mitchel
Who is in the Fart sandwich Posse?
From [email protected]
This is almost like the Bastardos from Seas of
Cheese. It's their close group of personal friends. Here's who was listed in
the posse on Frizzle Fry.
- Trouz Cuevas (their tour manager)
- Mike Bordin (from Faith No More)
- Clem Donahue (?)
- Deanne Franklin (?)
- Brain Mantia (from Limbomaniacs)
- Flapjax Libby (one of Primus' early drummers)
- Smiley -David Lefkowitz, the manager
- Sathington Stomp (?)
Who are The Bastards?
Basically, everyone who played on the songs of the same name. Members of
Primus and Limbomaniacs, plus Matt Winegar, Todd Huth, and Mike Bordin( Faith No
More).
Who are the Sathington Willoughby Orchestra?
- Todd - Todd Huth - Acoustic Guitar
- Chunker - Larry Lalonde - Archtop Acoustic Guitar
- Exxon - Matt Winegar - Toy Piano
- Herb - Tim Alexander - Toy Organ
- Snap - Les Claypool - Banjo, String Bass
What is El Bastardo?
The El Bastardo is Les' fishing boat.
Who does the album covers/claymation?
Claymation on all Primus/Sausauge albums was done by Lance "Link" Montoya.
From [email protected]
The clay Skeeter figure on the Miscellaneous Debris EP is credited
to "Snap" which is one of Les' nicknames. That's the only sculpture that Link
Montoya didn't do. Plus, Les halped on all the covers; he did the airbrushing
on them (except Suck on This).
Who is Todd Huth?
Todd Huth is the original guitarist for Primus and the guitarist for Sausage. His
current band is Porch, who have just released an album on Mammoth.
Who is Matt Winegar?
Matt Winegar is the producer of Frizzle Fry and the leader of the band Spent Poets.He
also produced on Suck On this, and played some guitar along with Todd Huth on STSOC.
Who is Bob Cock?
Bob Cock, personel friend of the band and apparent mentor, host of "Cheesy Home Video", and many
other duties far beyond the scope of this FAQ. He was also credited with producing on Suck On This.
Who are Bob Cock and the Yellow Sock?
To put it simply, accoustic Primus.
Why havent Primus/Bc &YS been on Mtv unplugged?
According to Les, "We want to be on Unplugged, but they won't lets us. We've tried
and tried, without success."
Who are the residents?
A San Francisco area performance/music group. World renowed as possibly the worlds
strangest band. The identities of the actual members is somewhat unknown as they seem to like to remain anoynomous.
Is Les a member of the Residents?
No. Les Claypool is not a member of The Residents. He has repeatedly
stated this in interviews. As [email protected] points out, if Les was born
in 63, he would have been about ten years old when the residents started.
Who is Schooly D?
Where is San Pablo bay?
What is "CMJ metal"?
From [email protected]
CMJ is the College Music Journal. It is a college radio trade mag
and they have a section dedicated to metal music. Most likely that's where
Les' shirt came from.
Who is Carl Thompson?
New York city luthier who created Les's custom basses. The basses all are
hand-carved and totally custom made. He has also created basses for Stanley
Clarke and Anthony Jackson.
Are there any bootlegs available?
Do Ler/Les use any non-standard tunings?
No. All that noise is done in standard tuning.
Ler: " I am confused enough with one" Guitar Player
Les: "No. I don't really want to. Maybe I'll do something with them later,
when I'm a little older. You see, I have to get to a point of
boredom- when I get bored, something new comes about." Bass Player Jan93
Note: Even though Les uses standard tuning as far as pitch goes, he
has been know to use two A strings and two G strings tuned to E-A-D-G on his
four string.
Where were their albums recorded/mixed?
See the annotated
discography and the liner notes in the lyrics page.
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